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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>bbgm - the discussion - Latest Comments in WebCite &amp;#8211; Persistent URLs for publishers</title><link>http://mndoci.disqus.com/</link><description>At the interface of science and computing</description><atom:link href="https://mndoci.disqus.com/webcite_persistent_urls_for_publishers/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:30:17 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: WebCite &amp;#8211; Persistent URLs for publishers</title><link>http://mndoci.com/2007/11/14/webcite-persistent-urls-for-publishers/#comment-1306352</link><description>&lt;p&gt;The people at &lt;a href="http://www.crossref.org/CrossTech/2007/10/nlm_blog_citation_guidelines_1.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.crossref.org/CrossTech/2007/10/nlm_blog_citation_guidelines_1.html"&gt;CrossRef &lt;/a&gt; have weighed in on this, and given their &lt;a href="http://dx.doi.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://dx.doi.org/"&gt;previous experience&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a&gt;, I think they merit a listen.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At least CrossRef knows that you can &lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.archive-it.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.archive-it.org/"&gt;request addition of material to archive.org&lt;/a&gt;, one of the &lt;i&gt;raisons d'être&lt;/i&gt; given by webcite for the use of its service instead of &lt;a href="http://archive.org" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="archive.org"&gt;archive.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mr. Gunn</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:30:17 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: WebCite &amp;#8211; Persistent URLs for publishers</title><link>http://mndoci.com/2007/11/14/webcite-persistent-urls-for-publishers/#comment-1306351</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I actually don't mind the human readable issue, since IMO the best use for something like this is for machines.  I do agree that putting everything in one repository is not the best idea, but I do like the idea of an aggregation URI, especially one that persists information.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Early days for a lot of such stuff.  Things will get better as time goes on.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mndoci</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:10:27 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: WebCite &amp;#8211; Persistent URLs for publishers</title><link>http://mndoci.com/2007/11/14/webcite-persistent-urls-for-publishers/#comment-1306350</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'm concerned about the way this is being done.  For one, using a TinyURL scheme destroys the human readable info in the permalinks we've all worked to create.  Second, I doubt that putting everything into one central repository will improve the percent availability of the collection, and if something does happen, there's a central point of failure.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is the cost of a high-availability web mirror database equal to or below the value of citations that the content owner and citing author don't find important enough to keep updated themselves?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mr. Gunn</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:53:38 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: WebCite &amp;#8211; Persistent URLs for publishers</title><link>http://mndoci.com/2007/11/14/webcite-persistent-urls-for-publishers/#comment-1306349</link><description>&lt;p&gt;on a slightly related note, check out this greasemonkey script I've been working on to add citation data to Pubmed searches: &lt;a href="http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/13704" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/13704"&gt;http://userscripts.org/scri...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">pluto</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:39:52 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>